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Reply | Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 23:55 30 Apr 2025
Ruben is majority shareholder and owner at nearly 80%. Shareholder voting is proportional to ownership. He outvotes everyone. |
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Reply | Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 23:40 30 Apr 2025
This process and politics are such.
Ruben is taking his exclusive council from Hoos AND Nourry - who are both in cohorts and lockstep.
But Hoos hired Nourry and has a very unhealthy vested interest in the boy wonder proving himself (at ALL costs), otherwise quite simply Hoos (as he is more than aware) is also out of a job for such an absurd, outrageous, frankly negligent appointment and recommendation to the board.
In clives analogy of mummy and daddy breakup, Ruben is being presented with a completely one sided (and totally manipulated and dangerous) viewpoint. There is no kind of intermediary and no lawyer to balance proceedings from different sides (coach vs DOF/CEO/Chairman. And certainly no jury.
Hoos and Nourry are the lawyers, the jury, and the judge. All rolled into one.
Ruben if you are reading this messageboard, time to dig deep and trust NO one. |
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Reply | Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 23:45 29 Apr 2025
Lee Hoos is doing extremely well to avoid being associated with this absolute sh!t show.
But he, along with his appointed sidekick Kim Jung Nourry, are both behind this concoction.
How on earth was it that Les went, Ramsay went. But Hoos stayed and got promoted?
The owners urgently need to clean house and get some new counsel.
We are in a death spiral. |
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Reply | Marti, stick or twist?
at 23:12 24 Apr 2025
Correct. The likes of Kolli, Tuck (got the quality but needs to bulk up significantly) and Sutton are Ramsays legacy, as are several more further down including Kennedy.
And whilst I agree with Nourry fast tracking of talent through the age groups, which is standard practice, and long overdue, ie playing a 16 year old at u18s level etc, it doesn’t necessarily make them any higher quality that the previous batch we’ve had over the years. Proof will be in the pudding re who and what is produced, in time.
Nourry’s near term input separate from Ramsays legacy are those in the u21 group who have been bought in from outside with a fee: friel, equerdinha, O’Brien, Dillon. |
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Reply | Marti, stick or twist?
at 20:01 24 Apr 2025
Football strategy and operations is the purview of the DOF. The football side of operations.
The non-football operations side of business is Lee Hoos department. Finance, marketing et al.
It’s not harsh at all, it’s a fact. This, from the man who distanced himself from football strategy and operations and is on record. For the record. |
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Reply | Marti, stick or twist?
at 22:01 23 Apr 2025
Lee Hoos has a LOT to answer for. And still heavily involved. [Post edited 23 Apr 22:04]
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Reply | Marti, stick or twist?
at 21:45 23 Apr 2025
You are missing the critical point. The strategy of DOF, which is an absolute must in the modern game, only truly works if you appoint someone who a. Has earned his stripes and b. Has proven his success.
However, if you appoint a lad 2-3 years out of uni, with no permanent full time job to speak of, never been on a payroll, and no background managing a team of 2, let alone 100+, then know it won’t likely end well.
There’s DOFs and then there’s that. |
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Reply | Marti, stick or twist?
at 21:34 23 Apr 2025
Isn’t it just.
Unfortunately they’ve left Lee Hoos in charge. Who hired Nourry, who reports into him. Both are in lockstep. Neither with an ounce of football strategy or operations experience between them. If you thought Hoos had an oversized, unchecked ego, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
There’s several of us been hinting at the elephant in the room for some time. It was always going to come to this. And will be the same for the next coach. And the next one. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 22:14 6 Apr 2025
If you do it on money spent, not on player volume, and success per spend - as any good recruitment operation is judged by - it changes considerably to the negative.
The big money marquee signings have been total flops and will affect our club for years to come. Making a mistake on a dev squad player, like a Bennie, is not the same as a multi-million one in Madsen. Everything is not created equal.
When you finally get to spend money, like we did this year, you just cannot be getting the big ones wrong. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 20:45 6 Apr 2025
Probably was a 9/10 if they had run the process effectively. Doesn’t take a lot to analyse DOF performance across Europe, find a few up and coming ones, and create a short list.
Instead, they gave it to a guy a couple of years out of uni, with not even a permanent job to his name. No background in managing people or teams. And literally no background in anything. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 17:46 6 Apr 2025
Nourry is on record for shopping in European markets and other World markets as they provide a much bigger pool for finding value. It was one of many changes driven by Nourry as the new DOF. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 15:31 6 Apr 2025
Perhaps it has something to do with the owners own upbringing and careers.
Unlike most, who have to work their way up and become experts in their field, honing their skills and experience over years, they were born into not only money, but business empires, and went right in at the top. See Amit and Ruben.
So perhaps their core belief system, and their own career paths, that one “just needs to be given a chance to show what they can do” vs “one requires experience, knowledge and expertise as a precursor for success”, may well be influencing their decision-making when making senior QPR appointments.
There is most definitely a (negative) trend of handing out senior positions to those who would not be in the running at any other club, let alone make it as the chosen candidate. So we get this continuous “learning on the job” culture, barely treading water, making mistake after mistake, with recruitment, contracts, academy etc.
Rather than learn from it, and seek out those who have been there and done it, they continue to make wild, high-risk decisions, none more wild that the appointment of Nourry - a candidate who has zero experience of CEO or DOF. And then give him both roles. Mind-boggling. That said Lee Hoos also has a key role in all of this, having bought Nourry into the club and recommended him to the owners. Still very much in the background. |
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Reply | Development side .
at 20:43 1 Apr 2025
It’s not really challenging the information from what I am reading, more berating it. It is overly aggressive, which says more about the accusers, than the sharers. And I don’t mean you specifically DM. Information is being shared with QPR fans in good faith. Either keep an open mind, or ignore it. |
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Reply | Development side .
at 19:04 1 Apr 2025
Pretty sure this topic has been bought up on here only recently.
If someone has access to inside knowledge, it is highly unlikely there is going to be any kind of verification process. “Name your source otherwise I won’t believe you”.
Easy to say if you aren’t caught up in it, but unless said person wants to betray contacts, relay private conversations, and publicise sources, then it isn’t a reasonable request.
So you are left with a choice, believe it, consider it, or ignore it. But no need to keep beating a stick. |
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Reply | QPR finances released
at 00:31 24 Feb 2025
Neither Saito or Dembele listed so the figures given appear to exclude these. |
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Reply | QPR finances released
at 14:08 22 Feb 2025
It’s listed as the last piece on the financial report under “post reporting date events”. |
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Reply | QPR finances released
at 12:48 22 Feb 2025
A key highlight for me is that we spent 9m this summer. 6m NET transfer value is given at the end of the report. Assuming we got the reported 2.5m for Armstrong (minus 500k sell on) and 1m for Dykes, gives 3m outgoing, and 6m net.
Meaning Madsen really was a 4m signing 👀 |
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Reply | Dunne off?
at 19:22 1 Feb 2025
It’s pretty obvious the gaslighting is coming from above and Calm is just following orders. It’s not as if the CEO doesn’t have previous here. |
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Reply | F A Youth Cup
at 18:36 19 Jan 2025
To be fair, this is standard practice across all clubs. Promote and fast track your best prospects through the age groups. Extremely odd that we weren’t doing it until now. And given that all clubs do it, it’s not an excuse why the u18s are bottom of the league. Because every other club is in the same boat whereby their best youngsters are “playing up”. It’s a level playing field. [Post edited 19 Jan 18:37]
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Reply | Kieran Morgan - Looks So Comfortable.
at 00:16 2 Jan 2025
I might be wrong but I think he was predominantly considered a centre half at spurs. He even trialed for QPR at centre half, and was absolutely stand out in the game I saw him play. What seems to have happened is that he has been given an opportunity in CM at QPR by Marti, that he didn’t get at spurs - probably because they are stocked with young talent in CM.
And he has absolutely excelled in the position. His energy, stamina, and tireless running and pressing are a joy. But the lad can also play, has a decent first touch, gets it out of his feet quickly, has great awareness, and moves the ball quickly and decisively. Always showing as well. Well done Kieran. Now we get him signed up long term ASAP |
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