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Gab Sutton/LFW QPR summer deep dive
at 21:33 10 Jul 2025

That's not actually wrong; he didn't become permanent until now, the fan's forum announcement way back in September was basically 'we've got an option to buy after his loan ends which we've decided to exercise' just done incredibly early. Also for some reason they pretended his single digit appearances at the time had triggered something which seemed obviously made up but who knows.
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Rest of the Championship thread 25/26
at 18:06 6 Jul 2025

Spendy new owners hoovering up aging players based off their rep a few years ago? I've heard this one before...
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Centre forward
at 15:27 27 Jun 2025

The cash being in instalments doesn't necessarily matter*, though exactly what we get will be affected by how Palace structure any sale and add-ons etc. We just need to be able to book the profit for PSR purposes to take advantage of it ourselves, which to my understanding happens straight away though I'm not totally au fait with how sell-on fees are accounted for.



*obviously cash matters in the long run and you don't want to get caught out unable to pay wages or the tax man, but in our situation where we have rich owners held back by our weak PSR position it's the accounting rules that drive decision-making rather than the timing of cash receipts.
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Kealey Adamson - Welcome
at 12:49 27 Jun 2025

It all looks like a plan's in place, doesn't it? You have two senior centrebacks in JCS/Cook with two young players in Morrison and Mbengue coming in behind them or stepping up when the inevitable injuries happen. Dunne is probably your senior RB but he can also cover CB, Mbengue can cover RB, there's a young player wanting to be at RB too. We're missing that proper senior LB on the other side but notionally you have Vale, Larkeche, and Esquerdinha there. After last summer's recruitment of half a dozen dwarfs all wanting to play in the same ten square feet of the pitch, we seem to be picking up players based on physical profiles, pace(!!!), and shoring up the squad depth with development prospects like this or players who can cover multiple positions. And another note that Adamson was ever-present in the A-League last season, though on a lighter schedule, which again suggests they're looking at availability as the best kind of ability.

Looking towards the future, a possible defence this season is Larkeche/Esquerdinha, Morrison, Mbengue, Adamson - all 23 or under, picked up cheap, all ours and not loans, with lots of room to develop, most of them able to run faster than your nan (not you Liam). Obviously there's question marks there - has Larkeche developed on loan, are the new boys up to the league, etc. etc. but it's exciting that there's at least the appearance of thinking about what the defence looks like in 2026-27 and signing those players now rather than scrambling around for them in two summers' time.
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Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t)
at 17:11 26 Jun 2025

It's stepped for how long the player is at the club I think, and Mbengue hasn't been at Reading long at all really. The Reading fan in the article linked above seems to think they'll get something for him though.
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anyone on here currently driving an electric car ?
at 17:04 26 Jun 2025

Had a Leaf for a couple of years, nice little car, range wasn't good enough for motorway driving really but great as a local runaround. Newer ones with better batteries will be fine. Take care on which plug type it takes because the rapid chargers are mostly on CCS2 (which I think is now the standard) but some cars like the older Leaf models are on ChaDeMO or however it's written and you'll often find there's one or none of those on the public chargers. When I replace my current car I'll get another EV if I can afford it.
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Amadou Mbengue confirmed (n/t)
at 16:57 26 Jun 2025

"CEO Christian Nourry said: “Amadou brings pace, power, defensive nous and an infectious personality to the first-team squad, as well as EFL experience.

“We are pleased that he has chosen QPR to take his next step.”"

Has he been reading the articles?
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Catastrophe, ou formidable? Stéphan steps into Loftus Road hot seat - Column
at 09:12 25 Jun 2025

Both of these questions are answered in the article!
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We're still waiting...
at 13:57 18 Jun 2025

Dunne confirmed now. Thank fck for that
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QPR Women
at 13:08 30 May 2025

"Why all of a sudden the push" is a question with two answers.

Yes, part of it is the social agenda. This stuff isn't nefarious. Women have played football pretty much as long as men have, but that doesn't mean they've been equally treated. Men's football is a gigantic global product with squillions invested in it; on the grassroots side, there's boys teams at every conceivable youth level. When I was growing up there was nothing like that for girls; we played mixed up to under 11s, but after that the leagues were segregated. That worked fine for the boys who could play youth leagues all the way through to adulthood. The girls were told to find another club.

It's easy to shrug and say well, women don't want to play football anyway, but that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Plenty of women like sports and plenty of them participate in sports that have structures that welcome them. There's no reason that women should play netball and hockey and tennis but not football or rugby or cricket, except that they're treated well in the former and not in the latter.

All that's changed now is that people are actively trying to create for women the kind of structures - the clubs, the leagues, the youth coaching - that already exist for men, and are treating women's success as being valid in its own right. Active work takes effort, and creates noise, which is what you notice.

"Love for the game" is a red herring; people don't love what doesn't exist. There has to be a game to love first. That stuff has been growing, but it's not like millions of people in their 40s and 50s and 60s are going to all have Damascene conversions to follow the women's game; it's the kids today who'll grow up with a world where women's football is taken seriously who'll be the ones who have a lifelong passion for it.

Putting that stuff aside, the second point is a commercial one. Women's football is a much smaller market than men's. It's much cheaper to get into and much cheaper to get the TV rights and all of that kind of thing. The last round of PL rights went for £4.5bn; the recent WSL rights cost £65m. For a tiny fraction of the cost you can get more games to show; once you've got the product, you're damn well going to promote it to get a return on that investment.

From an investor point of view, I'm surprised more of them aren't putting money into the women's game. Look at QPR. Our owners are more or less stuck on the men's side; PSR prevents them splashing cash to get promoted, and working within its bounds traps us in the lower reaches of the Championship. Clubs can, over the long haul, dig themselves out of that, but they need to be smart and lucky, and even then you can be Bristol City and find gems at youth level and sell them for £20m each and finally squeak into the playoffs and then get blown out 6-0 on aggregate by a club with parachute payments. If you're lighting money on fire either way, why not spend some of it on the women's side where you'll get a lot more for the cash and might actually win something?
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Question about Eze sell-on clause
at 22:50 21 May 2025

I am!
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Question about Eze sell-on clause
at 13:21 21 May 2025

That isn't quite the same thing. The classic 'swap deal' is just that, an actual swap - you've got this player, we've got this player, let's change them around. There'll be accounting off the back of it, but it wouldn't help us, because no money would change hands. They also just don't really happen much, even though the press loves suggesting them as rumours; it's rare that two clubs have exactly the player that the other needs and values them as being much the same. Even the Zlatan/Eto'o swap involved Barca paying €40m on top.

What these clubs were doing (as the article outlines) is two separate deals. You buy my player for the amount I need to show a profit today, and I'll buy your player for what you need to show a profit tomorrow. It relies on quirks of financial reporting standards - because academy players have little or nil value, the sale value is basically all profit, and you can book it immediately, while your cost for the player coming the other way is amortised over the contract length so it has a much smaller impact. You also don't have to pay them much by way of actual wages, because they're academy kids with no track record; they're on stupid money for 22 year olds with no real experience, but they're cheap in terms of the wage structure of these clubs.

Neither City nor Palace have the same incentives here; these are both players they paid fees for, and while they're probably amortised down a fair bit now, they're not worth nothing. Palace don't have PSR issues, so they have no need to try and get a quick hit of paper profits; they'd also be picking up twin burdens in the other direction because Grealish will want the kind of wages he's on at City. £15m of pure profit for a player you don't rate in return for having to take on a low-wage player that you also don't rate on a five-year deal is a nice way to fiddle the figures if you're riding the line; £100m for a high-wage player does you no PSR favours in the short term and locks you into a long and expensive contract in the future. Grealish is 29; do you think a club as astute with transfers as Palace is going to give him a five-year deal to do City a favour?
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End of Term Report 24/25 – Goalkeepers
at 11:06 19 May 2025

It's very QPR that we're deficient all across the pitch but the one area that you really want a single unquestioned #1 who plays every week and never rotates we've got three strong choices and a handful of youth players that also look good.

E: after listening to the Patreon pod, one minor correction, we do know about the JCS injury - it was the hip injury that he had surgery on.
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Rest of the Championship thread
at 14:48 16 May 2025

Per Companies House, their turnover in 2023/24 was basically the same as ours, with them playing in League Two. A loss of £2m compared to our £13m. Very likely that's gone up in the meantime.

The celebrity owners are throwing money at it, but as you say, it also helps with the kind of income generation from sponsorships and shirt sales that QPR could only dream of. Can't see United Airlines and Meta/Facebook queueing up to sponsor us.
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How the other half lives
at 11:13 13 May 2025

The food poisoning will match the vibe of our latest 3-0 home loss.
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Parachute payments
at 22:41 9 May 2025

To the other PL clubs, yes.
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A couple of your favourite games 24/25
at 13:44 7 May 2025

Norwich 3-0 because I had to watch it on my phone being an unsociable twt at a kids birthday party, so it was nice to be justified by watching them lose their heads as we beat them comfortably.

Luton 2-1 as others have said.

Honourable mention for the Bristol City game since I was able to go to that one and while it was rubbish most of the way through that Smyth goal was unbelievable.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread
at 16:20 4 May 2025

On the subject of Dozzell, Madsen already has more goal involvements (3 goals, 3 assists) from 34 games than Andre managed in two and a half seasons here.
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Off-season Business
at 16:58 19 Apr 2025

The question is whether we could get a similar type of striker with no injury issues for the same as what we'd be paying Frey. You'd imagine someone who offers what he does and is always available is going to cost a lot more.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread
at 16:48 19 Apr 2025

To be fair to him two of those second halves have been Oxford where Field got injured and the shape had to change and Preston where he moved out to the left to cover Saito being injured. As he said himself after the Oxford game, everyone knows he's not a winger.

I thought he was done after that FA Cup game in January so I'm glad he's come back and started showing more of what we bought him for. With any luck he can get some more minutes in and have a good end of the season and work on stamina/physicality over the summer to go with the vision and passing ability.
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