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Quite - there's a saying in horse racing, often repeated at Cheltenham and in lots of other sports I guess, that "you can't win the race at the start, but you can lose it".
I have never put money on us winning, don't see the point. Like others, consolation money always helpful and more importantly I feel like I am doing my bit as I am the worst punter in the entire world, so will regularly bet against us. 50/1 we go down in my pocket.
I could bet on Burrell not to play on Saturday and he would rise like Lazarus.
"I haven't read through other threads on this board because most of it is rant rant rant and its same old posters out of the woodwork when we are doing badly that we never hear from when we are playing well."
I don't understand the problem with this. Maybe when we win they are too busy being happy and celebrating, so there is less to post?
What is wrong with venting about the issues, even if you don't write "hurrah everything is great" when we win?
Just because someone doesn't post when we are doing well surely doesn't mean that they are not enjoying it and only want us to lose?
Sure - I said "relatively well" as Warbs aside we have never really been involved.
I don't rate JS at all, even given my belief that this job is nigh on impossible with the set up above, and I agree about the first half. Someone on social media said they were 84, had watched an incredible amount of QPR drivel, but that was right up there as bad as they have ever seen. I don't disagree, and injuries or not, that is just awful - you can at least fight.
But James, we've been doing relatively well around mid-December before, many times. And every time we've fallen like a stone.
I don't think Stephan is much cop, but this happening every time would indicate that it isn't all the manager's fault and there is greater mismanagement at play?
No interest in ex QPR players or staff taking over, tried all that and it doesn't work much either. Except in League One maybe. I want seasoned football professionals to manage the club, properly directed by the owners.
You've every right to be angry Dave. Look at the accounts; we are not some tiny footballing backwater spending £5 and lucky to be on the same pitch as others in the Championship.
That argument doesn't hold water because we only need to look at clubs with smaller supports than us, Brentford, Millwall, Bournemouth, Fulham - they've got it right. We've had nearly two decades at making a total pig's ear of it.
I agree wholeheartedly with you; get them all gone. New plan needed, involving QPR players wanting to play for QPR, not someone else in the future. Get that right and we all know clubs will be interested in the players anyway. Why would they be interested in the rubbish we have now?
It's almost like we go shopping for a future friend who we can only guess at what they may want rather than what we need in the here and now.
Ah, but Mart - they will come, and say you are knee-jerk, over reacting to a few defeats? Don't see you post much when we win. What sort of fan are you? I am there at the end SUPPORTING the players as I am a SUPPORTER. You just revel in criticising the club and love it when we lose.
What a load of bilge. I'd like to have been in that dressing room at half-time, getting subbed would have been the least of their problems.
Was interesting watching Cook last night. What a pro - treated worse than dirt for a club he must surely now care very little for, and he showed more passion and commitment than anyone else in a Celtic shirt.
Yet I remember he used to get criticised for finger pointing when he was captain as though he was some sort of blame shifter. More like he has standards.
Apart from Jimmy, our other player with this sort of commitment is currently driving a tractor towards the top half of the table. Brilliant.
Amazing that the loyal bunch there didn't react more than with a few boos. Times have changed, as we have discussed before. I thought that first half was as lethargic and poor a showing as even QPR have put up in decades; couldn't have complained if it was 5-0 and it was somewhat fortunate it wasn't.
If the fans don't get riled at: > a total lack of effort > a situation where we have spent serious money on one player who looks like an U12 has turned up in the Championship and another who within months, despite a huge injury crisis, we are playing out of position in central midfield. > an injury situation that is just inexcusable > the ditched Cook yet again looking like our best defender, and getting an injury, surprise surprise - was it contact? > a manager who is certainly no better than the one we ditched
...then I don't get it. I am glad I am not going to Leicester as the inevitable defeat would boil my urine and watching fellow R's clap because someone bothered to sprint when 3-0 down would give me a coronary.
Ruben, please, please, wake up. You've hired a dud. Fix it.
We are still 50/1 to go down. Get a saver on those League One tickets while you can.
66/1 available if you are worried. I think that's about the right price with the 47 points in the bag, we should stumble across a home win somewhere then should be OK.
A million apologies mate, had backed that double for the exact same reasons earlier this morning. Sorry to kybosh, as I never win.
I like the Skeltons a lot, but it's funny in racing how some trainers get nailed for handicap shenanigans, and others, just like Prescott on the flat...just do it time after time and not a word is uttered. Not that I could care less, I know they have to make it pay.
Well I've always believed goalkeepers should just try and save penalties rather then guess and flop in the opposite direction; seemingly what every QPR keeper bar Smithies has done in the history of time.
I suppose a Panenka is just another way of trying to score - surely in this data-driven world though it must be factored in that if the keeper doesn't move / guesses you are going to do it then 100% of the time it will fail, unlike with an attempt at a well-hit penalty? You could get that slightly wrong / keeper goes right way and still a certain percentage of the time it will go in?
And back to my under appreciated point, just read a QPR fan on Twitter saying that Cook is the "second best CB at the club" behind JCS.
I mean, if I was Cook I would delete the whole QPR experience from my memory, never mind social media. Slogs his guts out, then some bloke made of glass who turns up once every 30 games for half an hour is rated above him?!
I know, Hunter, that they won't exactly be queuing around the block. All I am saying is, I genuinely don't believe we are not a half-decent proposition for an owner somewhere.
People have bought us before, I reckon they will do again.
Not saying there is some golden ticket out there, just that I think we will be OK and that we shouldn't treat these owners with kid gloves because the alternative is doom.
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