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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 09:16 20 Sep 2025
You don’t need to have been there to know how mad the 3m figure is.
Earlier in the thread I did the maths which is probably the moss accurate way to do it.
I’d readily accept that numbers were suppressed and the true number was in the low hundred thousands.
Any more than that. Not mathematically possible. |
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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 21:40 19 Sep 2025
Do you think the entire population of wales can fit into two bridges, two streets and two squares in London? |
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Reply | Jezbollah
at 20:46 19 Sep 2025
I don’t think they have been or will be taken seriously.
It childish, student politics IMO.
They’re just playing at it. |
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Reply | So, right wing then
at 16:35 19 Sep 2025
Neither left wing or right wing should be insults. They’re simply differing views.
It’s the extremes where the problems are and it’s such a sensitive subject it causes a lot of anger.
Both sides using the ‘far’ label is very unhelpful but then, who adjudicates?
I’d describe myself as left of centre with some traditional right wing views.
I wouldn’t personally describe Nigel Farage as far right. I would describe Tommy Robinson as far right. Others may disagree and that’s fine too. |
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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 16:29 19 Sep 2025
I might have missed something but if you can show me an example of where the numbers have amplified by 20 then I’ll certainly comment.
The biggest report march was in November 2023 where the figure reported was 750,000.
Were there 37,500 there? [Post edited 19 Sep 16:50]
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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 13:58 19 Sep 2025
It appears to be untrue.
It's good not to belive things that aren't true.
On this thread its been shared that the Met announced a 3 million crowd at the event and affiliations of those arrested. Not true.
I get the last one as it's perfectly plausable that there were agitators in the crowd, but 3 million?
Sorry but if someone believes that the need their algorithms checked. |
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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 18:26 18 Sep 2025
Yep. I looked there and on the X feed and nothing. |
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Reply | Charlie Kirk shot.
at 18:25 18 Sep 2025
Biggest cause of death for children in the US is firearms.
Culturally I dint think a gun ban in the US is practical but there’s seems to be some simple things that could be done to minimise risk.
Second amendment proponents seem very keen on the ‘shall not be infringed’ bit but not so pushed on the ‘well regulated’ part. |
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Reply | Millwall fan in the wrong end today
at 18:14 18 Sep 2025
There’s only twice at sporting events I’ve felt unsafe.
Swans away at Luton, and after watching Gloucester rugby (ans I was a neutral). |
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Reply | Lucy Powell
at 17:42 17 Sep 2025
I think Reform governing in wales would be the worst thing for them. They’re not geared up for the nitty gritty of politics and could be shown up.
A Labour/Plaid coalition would be a dream for them as they could chip away at them in preparation for the next General Election. |
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Reply | Charlie Kirk shot.
at 17:39 17 Sep 2025
If more guns make you safe, how many guns do you need for it to be enough?
Gun owners are statistically far more likely to use their gun on themselves.
WR is right that we often make the mistake of thinking because we speak the same language as Americans we’re the same. We’re not.
Guns are just one thing. We could never have a Charlie Kirk type here as we don’t have the type of evangelical Christians here that they do in the states. In fact, the majority of British Christians wouldn’t think what he stood for as very Christian at all.
I didn’t think he was a particularly good debater. Any time he was really challenged he fell back on what the bible says as the ultimate truth. No point in arguing against someone with faith.
Sadly it’ll never happen but I’d love to have seen him going up against Christopher Hitchens, although I feel Hitches wouldn’t have wanted to waste his time.
In more recent time, Alex O’Conner would have wiped the floor with someone like Charlie Kirk. [Post edited 17 Sep 17:43]
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Reply | "One-in, one-out" scheme struggling
at 08:20 17 Sep 2025
It's also worth noting that leaving the EHCR might not be the silver bullet some think it is.
So far it's 0.73 per cent proportion of foreign national offenders who have successfully appealed against deportation from the UK on human rights grounds
and only on 3 occasions has the ECHR has ruled against the UK in cases relating to immigration rules |
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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 17:59 16 Sep 2025
3 million would be the equivalent of full crowds at Wembley for every cup final since 1982. |
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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 16:54 16 Sep 2025
Some generalisation but from what I saw yesterday the majority of the protesters were male, white and between the ages of 18 and 75.
There are around 14 million in the country that fit into that group.
A million people means that 1 in every 14 from that group were there. |
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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 16:24 15 Sep 2025
I know.
I doubted myself when Liam said the Met had confirmed 3 million but I can't see that anywhere.
If that was the case surely it would be plastered all over teh Mail/Express/Telegraph.
I appreciate I'm boring people now but the 3 million figure is insane.
If you just take Westminster bridge, if you really went for a daft density of 6 people crushed into a square metre, the bridge would hold 39,000 people. A more realistic figure would be 4 per square meter meaning the bridge would hold 26,000.
A crowd of 3 million would be 115 of those. A crowd of 150k would be 6 of those. That sounds about right to me. |
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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 15:40 15 Sep 2025
That protest is hailed as the largest ever and the most generous figure for that one is a million. |
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Reply | Unite The Kingdom
at 14:13 15 Sep 2025
Here's the Express, probably our most right leaning paper on the numbers attending the protest (again quoting the Met figure of 110k)
Why would the Express allow the crowd size to be dramatically underestimated?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2108611/tommy-robinson-march-london-crowd-size
Two bridges, two streets and two squares. Does anyone really think that that can hold the entire population of Birmingham? Or pretty much the whole of Wales? |
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