| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender 18:04 - Oct 24 with 13573 views | AnotherJohn |
On the day that another asylum seeker was convicted of murder, the man convicted of sex offences while he stayed at the Bell Hotel, Epping, was accidentally released from prison and his whereabouts are unknown. A manhunt is in progress. [Post edited 24 Oct 18:11]
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 10:52 - Oct 29 with 1219 views | Boundy |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 09:19 - Oct 29 by Gwyn737 |
I think it’s important we take the actual issues.
In this case, it does seem like a competency issue. Nowt to do with ‘woke’. |
The actual issues are we are being overwhelmed by people who shouldn't be any where nears a civilised country , deal with that and I think you'll find other "issues" will disappear. | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 10:56 - Oct 29 with 1212 views | Gwyn737 |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 10:52 - Oct 29 by Boundy |
The actual issues are we are being overwhelmed by people who shouldn't be any where nears a civilised country , deal with that and I think you'll find other "issues" will disappear. |
I agree with you.
My point is woke has nothing to do with it | | | |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 12:22 - Oct 29 with 1175 views | raynor94 |
Revealed this morning he was given £500 of taxpayers money when he left what on earth is this Country coming too |  |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 12:47 - Oct 29 with 1160 views | majorraglan |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 12:22 - Oct 29 by raynor94 |
Revealed this morning he was given £500 of taxpayers money when he left what on earth is this Country coming too |
Looks like the removal team dealing with him made the decision to pay him £500 after he threatened to disrupt the process, morally wrong, but from a financial
perspective it makes total sense because solicitors representing him in any legal proceedings would cost a lot more than that as would having to cancel the flight etc etc. Let’s hope he never tries to get back in, if he does he should be jailed for a long long time. | | | |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 12:59 - Oct 29 with 1149 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 12:47 - Oct 29 by majorraglan |
Looks like the removal team dealing with him made the decision to pay him £500 after he threatened to disrupt the process, morally wrong, but from a financial
perspective it makes total sense because solicitors representing him in any legal proceedings would cost a lot more than that as would having to cancel the flight etc etc. Let’s hope he never tries to get back in, if he does he should be jailed for a long long time. |
He should be paying his own solicitors fees, not us. He also shouldn’t have the power to “disrupt the process” in the first place. He’s committed a serious offence and the law of the land demands his deportation so just handcuff the scumbag and bundle him on the plane if necessary.
Why do we insist on treating hardened criminals with kid gloves? |  |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 13:23 - Oct 29 with 1120 views | raynor94 |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 12:47 - Oct 29 by majorraglan |
Looks like the removal team dealing with him made the decision to pay him £500 after he threatened to disrupt the process, morally wrong, but from a financial
perspective it makes total sense because solicitors representing him in any legal proceedings would cost a lot more than that as would having to cancel the flight etc etc. Let’s hope he never tries to get back in, if he does he should be jailed for a long long time. |
There was a 5 man security team escorting him surely they could handle one man and he shouldn't have any rights to legal services to oppose his deportation
He's now arrived in Ethiopia a free man with £500 in his back pocket | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 14:29 - Oct 29 with 1089 views | 1983 |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 13:23 - Oct 29 by raynor94 |
There was a 5 man security team escorting him surely they could handle one man and he shouldn't have any rights to legal services to oppose his deportation
He's now arrived in Ethiopia a free man with £500 in his back pocket |
My mate works for the "removal team" there has to be a full team on board, all these returning Illegal imagrants are given money, the team are authorised and trained to use full force on putting these people on the planes, they even use straight jackets if they need to. He wasn't given an easy ride as the media would have you believe |  |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 15:59 - Oct 29 with 1049 views | Robbie |
I was lead to believe he wanted to go back to his Country as soon as possible voluntarily .
Amazing how few hours walking the Streets unchallenged with freedom and the whiff of easy money incoming , a change of mind by this sex offender happens .
Deposit raised already for his next attempted small boat crossing . | | | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 22:06 - Oct 29 with 964 views | majorraglan |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 13:23 - Oct 29 by raynor94 |
There was a 5 man security team escorting him surely they could handle one man and he shouldn't have any rights to legal services to oppose his deportation
He's now arrived in Ethiopia a free man with £500 in his back pocket |
It’s far more cost effective to give him the £500 and be done.
He was flown out on a commercial flight. Had he been disruptive, kicked off or threatened to kick off the captain of the aircraft would have been well within his rights to refuse to allow him on board or have him removed from the aircraft. That would have meant he’d still be here.
It’s not possible to restrain someone for hours and hours without serious risk of something going wrong, imagine if they’d have had to physically restrain him and he had a heart attack or suffered positional asphyxia, the security guards are potentially looking a a criminal investigation possibly for murder or manslaughter.
If he’d have started to kick off mid air, then even with 5 security staff there’s a possibility the captain of the plane would have diverted to unload him. That would incur additional costs including landing costs, refuelling, compensation to other passengers if the flights is late reaching its destination, hotel costs for the crew and passengers if the crew’s hours are up etc etc, medical costs, ot for the security etc etc etc. All that could easily run to £100k and would be charged back to us via the airline.
As much as it goes against the grain, £500 v potentially £100k is good business. | | | |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 02:01 - Oct 30 with 923 views | Robbie |
Also reporting this sex offender wanted another legal appeal to stay in the UK please .
Human Rights Lawyers rubbing their hands already , get him off that flight now .
So give him £ 500 of taxpayers money to keep the peace , few hours ago he was desperate to leave The UK and get away from us .
Call was made and yes , chuck him out with a freebie to be used later in The Channel .
You really cannot make this farcical stuff up . | | | |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 07:59 - Oct 30 with 896 views | onehunglow |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 02:01 - Oct 30 by Robbie |
Also reporting this sex offender wanted another legal appeal to stay in the UK please .
Human Rights Lawyers rubbing their hands already , get him off that flight now .
So give him £ 500 of taxpayers money to keep the peace , few hours ago he was desperate to leave The UK and get away from us .
Call was made and yes , chuck him out with a freebie to be used later in The Channel .
You really cannot make this farcical stuff up . |
I’ve often commented about lawyers and got nowt but distain
I stand by every word
Leeches although sometimes need them | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 10:19 - Oct 30 with 862 views | AnotherJohn |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 02:01 - Oct 30 by Robbie |
Also reporting this sex offender wanted another legal appeal to stay in the UK please .
Human Rights Lawyers rubbing their hands already , get him off that flight now .
So give him £ 500 of taxpayers money to keep the peace , few hours ago he was desperate to leave The UK and get away from us .
Call was made and yes , chuck him out with a freebie to be used later in The Channel .
You really cannot make this farcical stuff up . |
Funny you should say that as Times Radio interviewed a HR lawyer today who said that this deportee would have a good chance of staying if he could only get back to the UK. The lawyer said that Ethiopia was hardly a safe country for this man, and the fact that he had been deported once would not necessarily take away the force of HR considerations. When it was suggested that the conviction for a sexual offence would make asylum impossible, the lawyer said that it was only a 12 months sentence and that shorter sentences were on a different category from sentences of 4 years plus. He seemed willing to take on such cases. We will always see inventive arguments put forward, given the lax framework of ECHR and HRA law. | | | |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 12:50 - Oct 30 with 819 views | onehunglow |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 10:19 - Oct 30 by AnotherJohn |
Funny you should say that as Times Radio interviewed a HR lawyer today who said that this deportee would have a good chance of staying if he could only get back to the UK. The lawyer said that Ethiopia was hardly a safe country for this man, and the fact that he had been deported once would not necessarily take away the force of HR considerations. When it was suggested that the conviction for a sexual offence would make asylum impossible, the lawyer said that it was only a 12 months sentence and that shorter sentences were on a different category from sentences of 4 years plus. He seemed willing to take on such cases. We will always see inventive arguments put forward, given the lax framework of ECHR and HRA law. |
No lawyer would live anywhere near them | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 14:44 - Oct 30 with 795 views | Boundy |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 22:06 - Oct 29 by majorraglan |
It’s far more cost effective to give him the £500 and be done.
He was flown out on a commercial flight. Had he been disruptive, kicked off or threatened to kick off the captain of the aircraft would have been well within his rights to refuse to allow him on board or have him removed from the aircraft. That would have meant he’d still be here.
It’s not possible to restrain someone for hours and hours without serious risk of something going wrong, imagine if they’d have had to physically restrain him and he had a heart attack or suffered positional asphyxia, the security guards are potentially looking a a criminal investigation possibly for murder or manslaughter.
If he’d have started to kick off mid air, then even with 5 security staff there’s a possibility the captain of the plane would have diverted to unload him. That would incur additional costs including landing costs, refuelling, compensation to other passengers if the flights is late reaching its destination, hotel costs for the crew and passengers if the crew’s hours are up etc etc, medical costs, ot for the security etc etc etc. All that could easily run to £100k and would be charged back to us via the airline.
As much as it goes against the grain, £500 v potentially £100k is good business. |
"It’s far more cost effective to give him the £500 and be done" in this case you could be right but now the precedent has been set so how many more will be using this to squeeze yet more money from the taxpayer . | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 15:30 - Oct 30 with 772 views | raynor94 |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 14:44 - Oct 30 by Boundy |
"It’s far more cost effective to give him the £500 and be done" in this case you could be right but now the precedent has been set so how many more will be using this to squeeze yet more money from the taxpayer . |
A plane load of Romanian criminals were given up to £2000 under the UK's facilitated return scheme to leave I wonder how many were back within days | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 16:03 - Oct 30 with 763 views | AnotherJohn |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 15:30 - Oct 30 by raynor94 |
A plane load of Romanian criminals were given up to £2000 under the UK's facilitated return scheme to leave I wonder how many were back within days |
Indeed so. The awful thing is that the £500 for the Ethiopian was far from a one off, and he could probably have got a higher payment if he had made a proper application. A HR lawyer on the radio today said he met the criteria. See the deals on offer at the link.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/68517356dc640d9b20f3e938/The+Faci
In summary:
Resettlement grant
• £1,500 where the application is made whilst the FNO is serving their custodial
sentence
• £1,500 for qualifying family members
• £750 for FNOs who apply after completing their custodial sentence
• £750 for FNOs who have received a conviction overseas
• £750 for FNOs with UK non-custodial convictions
A discretionary additional £500 in financial support may be payable upon departure
to a small number of vulnerable FNOs in certain circumstances. | | | |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 18:03 - Oct 30 with 721 views | majorraglan |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 14:44 - Oct 30 by Boundy |
"It’s far more cost effective to give him the £500 and be done" in this case you could be right but now the precedent has been set so how many more will be using this to squeeze yet more money from the taxpayer . |
No precedent has been set here, these arrangement’s have been in place for many many years. | | | |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 18:21 - Oct 30 with 705 views | 1983 |
The cash has always been in place and is the carrot and the donkey they physically dont get the cash until they are off the plane | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 13:14 - Nov 5 with 494 views | raynor94 |
Truly unbelievable, he's been out for six days and no sign of catching up with him.
Government figures show 262 prisoners in England and Wales were mistakenly released up to March 2025
Who on earth are employed to these positions! | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 13:22 - Nov 5 with 486 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 13:14 - Nov 5 by raynor94 |
Truly unbelievable, he's been out for six days and no sign of catching up with him.
Government figures show 262 prisoners in England and Wales were mistakenly released up to March 2025
Who on earth are employed to these positions! |
This country seems to be full of people who can't do their job properly. This one escaped last week, so presumably it's been covered up until now? [Post edited 5 Nov 13:29]
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 14:48 - Nov 5 with 452 views | Boundy |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 18:03 - Oct 30 by majorraglan |
No precedent has been set here, these arrangement’s have been in place for many many years. |
When was this arrangement put in place ? | |
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| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 14:55 - Nov 5 with 444 views | Gwyn737 |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 13:22 - Nov 5 by JACKMANANDBOY |
This country seems to be full of people who can't do their job properly. This one escaped last week, so presumably it's been covered up until now? [Post edited 5 Nov 13:29]
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What's been done to the justice system over the last 20 years is a disgrace.
It cold well be incompetence or it could be systematic of a system on its knees. | | | |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 15:00 - Nov 5 with 442 views | hobo |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 13:14 - Nov 5 by raynor94 |
Truly unbelievable, he's been out for six days and no sign of catching up with him.
Government figures show 262 prisoners in England and Wales were mistakenly released up to March 2025
Who on earth are employed to these positions! |
Purposefully doing it so the govt can say they have a reason for digital id? |  | | |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 15:09 - Nov 5 with 435 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Manhunt for Epping Forest sex offender on 14:55 - Nov 5 by Gwyn737 |
What's been done to the justice system over the last 20 years is a disgrace.
It cold well be incompetence or it could be systematic of a system on its knees. |
Again it’s ideological. These people in charge don’t believe criminals should be punished for what they’ve done. It’s no wonder the system has become so lax when we treat criminals better than we treat our veterans and old people. | |
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