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Motability Scheme in Wales 06:57 - Dec 7 with 759 viewsAnotherJohn

New figures suggest that a third of new cars sold in Wales are funded by taxpayers for people on benefits.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/third-of-new-car-sales-in-parts-of-uk-were
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Motability Scheme in Wales on 08:25 - Dec 7 with 706 viewsWhiterockin

277,645 Motorbility cars for a total of 1,910,000 adults living in Wales is is bad enough but how many of those are the luxury cars now withdrawn. In my opinion withdrawing the luxury brands does not go far enough. Motorbility should only provide base vehicles suitable for a person's needs, any top of the range models within the allowed vehicle manufacturer, the difference should be paid for by the individual.
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Motability Scheme in Wales on 09:33 - Dec 7 with 650 viewsjohnlangy

Motability Scheme in Wales on 08:25 - Dec 7 by Whiterockin

277,645 Motorbility cars for a total of 1,910,000 adults living in Wales is is bad enough but how many of those are the luxury cars now withdrawn. In my opinion withdrawing the luxury brands does not go far enough. Motorbility should only provide base vehicles suitable for a person's needs, any top of the range models within the allowed vehicle manufacturer, the difference should be paid for by the individual.


Isn't the difference already paid by the individual ?

If the allowance is say £300 and the leasing of the car is £400 then they have to pay the £100 extra themselves. Don't they ?
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Motability Scheme in Wales on 09:42 - Dec 7 with 637 viewsonehunglow

Motability Scheme in Wales on 08:25 - Dec 7 by Whiterockin

277,645 Motorbility cars for a total of 1,910,000 adults living in Wales is is bad enough but how many of those are the luxury cars now withdrawn. In my opinion withdrawing the luxury brands does not go far enough. Motorbility should only provide base vehicles suitable for a person's needs, any top of the range models within the allowed vehicle manufacturer, the difference should be paid for by the individual.


Exactly
It is also the case that nobody has a right to have a licence and/ or to drive
How did folk back in the day get around
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Motability Scheme in Wales on 09:57 - Dec 7 with 606 viewsDr_Winston

Motability Scheme in Wales on 09:33 - Dec 7 by johnlangy

Isn't the difference already paid by the individual ?

If the allowance is say £300 and the leasing of the car is £400 then they have to pay the £100 extra themselves. Don't they ?


Technically. If the individual isn't working the taxpayer picks up the tab anyway.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Motability Scheme in Wales on 10:22 - Dec 7 with 573 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Motability Scheme in Wales on 08:25 - Dec 7 by Whiterockin

277,645 Motorbility cars for a total of 1,910,000 adults living in Wales is is bad enough but how many of those are the luxury cars now withdrawn. In my opinion withdrawing the luxury brands does not go far enough. Motorbility should only provide base vehicles suitable for a person's needs, any top of the range models within the allowed vehicle manufacturer, the difference should be paid for by the individual.


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Motability Scheme in Wales on 11:21 - Dec 7 with 517 viewsBoundy

Motability Scheme in Wales on 09:57 - Dec 7 by Dr_Winston

Technically. If the individual isn't working the taxpayer picks up the tab anyway.


Taken from Which .

"The scheme offers a wide range of cars, from city cars and small hatchbacks to large family models and MPVs.

However, more expensive models are subject to a one-off advanced payment, as the mobility allowance doesn't entirely cover their cost. The more expensive a car is to buy, the more expensive the payment will be.

Some small cars, MPVs and SUVs are exempt from advance payments "

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Motability Scheme in Wales on 11:46 - Dec 7 with 482 viewsWhiterockin

Motability Scheme in Wales on 11:21 - Dec 7 by Boundy

Taken from Which .

"The scheme offers a wide range of cars, from city cars and small hatchbacks to large family models and MPVs.

However, more expensive models are subject to a one-off advanced payment, as the mobility allowance doesn't entirely cover their cost. The more expensive a car is to buy, the more expensive the payment will be.

Some small cars, MPVs and SUVs are exempt from advance payments "


It's more complicated than that with numerous possible outcomes. That's why some luxury brands have been completely removed from the scheme. Unless you actually work within the system you don't actually know how to take advantage, in layman's words "take the piss".
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Motability Scheme in Wales on 19:59 - Dec 7 with 328 viewsonehunglow

Motability Scheme in Wales on 10:22 - Dec 7 by JACKMANANDBOY

Should benefits be a safety net or support a particular level of lifestyle?


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Motability Scheme in Wales on 20:09 - Dec 7 with 308 viewsDr_Winston

Motability Scheme in Wales on 10:22 - Dec 7 by JACKMANANDBOY

Should benefits be a safety net or support a particular level of lifestyle?


Depends.

If someone is unable to work due to genuine ill health, or because they're caring for someone with genuine ill health, they should be supported. In fact carers in general should receive more support because they're a helluva lot cheaper than the alternative.

I would raise the rates of contributory based benefits, bring in workfare, and look long and hard at the current ability for people to sit on the dole for long periods of time and still qualify for a state pension/pension credit.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Motability Scheme in Wales on 10:42 - Dec 9 with 152 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Currently cars in the motorbility scheme are VAT free which of course is why so many cars are purchased through the scheme.

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Motability Scheme in Wales on 10:55 - Dec 9 with 136 viewsBoundy

Motability Scheme in Wales on 19:59 - Dec 7 by onehunglow

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and index linked of course.

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