| Time to act 19:26 - Dec 17 with 12718 views | GowertonJack68 |
Stuart James's tweet summed it up perfectly
“Swansea are in a mess”
“A mess of their own doing, yet nobody is held accountable. In fact, the answer to wasting millions is to get the fans to pay more. A regime that is out of touch & desperately lacking football expertise”
Surely now is time for fans to unite and demonstrate our anger at the owners. Perhaps a boycott of the next home game could bring them the bad publicity that they despise?!
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| Time to act on 15:11 - Dec 22 with 1789 views | union_jack |
| Time to act on 15:07 - Dec 22 by Chippy69 |
I'll go with German tankers
No need to thank me [Post edited 22 Dec 2023 15:12]
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German Tankers. Yankers. |  |
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| Time to act on 15:14 - Dec 22 with 1777 views | Chippy69 |
| Time to act on 15:11 - Dec 22 by union_jack |
German Tankers. Yankers. |
Just thought I'd add the ers |  |
| They make us feel indebted
For saving us from hell
And then they put us through it
It's time the bastards fell
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| Time to act on 15:14 - Dec 22 with 1778 views | Whiterockin |
| Time to act on 15:10 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Being a Welsh Swansea fan is not a free pass. The fans have behaved very poorly and have had a bad effect on the club. They, like the US people, have to do better.
Abuse of English is not tolerated on here. Abuse of Welsh or American is fair game for most. The Anglophiles with their flags nand slurs are the most abusive of the USA / Welsh club. Some want Winter or god forbid Birch back They want a soothing English contribution. |
You are either on a complete wind up or thick as mince if you can't see what the owners are doing to our club. |  | | |
| Time to act on 15:25 - Dec 22 with 1740 views | swan_si |
| Time to act on 15:07 - Dec 22 by Chippy69 |
I'll go with German tankers
No need to thank me [Post edited 22 Dec 2023 15:12]
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Sherman. No need to thank me. |  | | |
| Time to act on 15:31 - Dec 22 with 1713 views | swan_si |
| Time to act on 15:14 - Dec 22 by Whiterockin |
You are either on a complete wind up or thick as mince if you can't see what the owners are doing to our club. |
🙋♂️what are the owners doing to our club? And could you please state whether it's fact, or opinion, thank you. | | | |
| Time to act on 15:48 - Dec 22 with 1667 views | Whiterockin |
| Time to act on 15:31 - Dec 22 by swan_si |
🙋♂️what are the owners doing to our club? And could you please state whether it's fact, or opinion, thank you. |
Fact. There is no clarity in the ownership of the club and no FULL disclosure of finances due the investment by an American fund. 70% of the ownership is through this fund, there is no declaration of who owns what percentage of these shares. Without full disclosure supporters will speculate. I'll just leave this here, exactly what are they trying to hide.
A totally separate fact is they have lost the support of the majority of supporters, attendances are dropping dramatically, again a fact. We are in a relegation battle driven by bad decisions made by the club, again a fact. We are struggling to get a manager due to poor reputation the club has and the unwillingness to pay the going rate, again a fact. When they became owners we were a Premier League club now we are on a downward spiral towards league one, again fact. | | | |
| Time to act (n/t) on 16:06 - Dec 22 with 1639 views | swan_si |
| Time to act on 15:48 - Dec 22 by Whiterockin |
Fact. There is no clarity in the ownership of the club and no FULL disclosure of finances due the investment by an American fund. 70% of the ownership is through this fund, there is no declaration of who owns what percentage of these shares. Without full disclosure supporters will speculate. I'll just leave this here, exactly what are they trying to hide.
A totally separate fact is they have lost the support of the majority of supporters, attendances are dropping dramatically, again a fact. We are in a relegation battle driven by bad decisions made by the club, again a fact. We are struggling to get a manager due to poor reputation the club has and the unwillingness to pay the going rate, again a fact. When they became owners we were a Premier League club now we are on a downward spiral towards league one, again fact. |
I see a lot of opinions and drama in that fact ridden post, actually it came across as an entitled viewpoint. No fan or indeed supporter would want to see us relegated, and I would add our owners to that, they've made mistakes for sure, most clubs do, but it's not too late to turn things around. I for one hope they do. [Post edited 22 Dec 2023 16:20]
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| Time to act (n/t) on 16:29 - Dec 22 with 1590 views | Whiterockin |
| Time to act (n/t) on 16:06 - Dec 22 by swan_si |
I see a lot of opinions and drama in that fact ridden post, actually it came across as an entitled viewpoint. No fan or indeed supporter would want to see us relegated, and I would add our owners to that, they've made mistakes for sure, most clubs do, but it's not too late to turn things around. I for one hope they do. [Post edited 22 Dec 2023 16:20]
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I agree it's not too late to turn our season around, but they have to make the correct decisions now. Whether they have the knowledge, connections and expertise to do this I'm not sure. I really hope they do. But as long as there is not full clarity regarding ownership there will always be questions asked. | | | |
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| Time to act (n/t) on 17:27 - Dec 22 with 1532 views | Boundy |
| Time to act (n/t) on 16:06 - Dec 22 by swan_si |
I see a lot of opinions and drama in that fact ridden post, actually it came across as an entitled viewpoint. No fan or indeed supporter would want to see us relegated, and I would add our owners to that, they've made mistakes for sure, most clubs do, but it's not too late to turn things around. I for one hope they do. [Post edited 22 Dec 2023 16:20]
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You'd swear they bought the Club yesterday , remind yourself of a few things ,when did they buy the Club and how many professional chairmen ,managers etc have been and left since they purchased the Club .one thongs fir sure ,they're clueless on how to progress the Club but good at making money from it . | |
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| Time to act (n/t) on 18:17 - Dec 22 with 1468 views | swan_si |
| Time to act (n/t) on 17:58 - Dec 22 by Chippy69 |
Think of another football club that have a chairman, who knows absolutely F all about football and the way it should be run
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I've no interest at all in other clubs. | | | |
| Time to act (n/t) on 18:20 - Dec 22 with 1465 views | Chippy69 |
| Time to act (n/t) on 18:17 - Dec 22 by swan_si |
I've no interest at all in other clubs. |
Well don't expect miracles from this shower
Do they do managers on loan if so were ok | |
| They make us feel indebted
For saving us from hell
And then they put us through it
It's time the bastards fell
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| Time to act on 22:56 - Dec 22 with 1363 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
The last time Swansea were relegated Mr Toshack was manager and Mr Struel was chairman, Both were Welsh. The club fell like a stone. Mr Sharpe did great service but the club was in a deep hole for over a decade.
Without US support the same thing would have happened under Morgan and Jenkins most probably. The the numbers were getting too big for Welsh owners and they correctly handed over the reigns. Billionaires are in short supply in Wales. No risks were taken with minor shareholders.
The next best thing is USA owners with Welsh heritage. I welcome it. Swansea over the last 15 years or so SCFC have been in the top 8-35 clubs in the English system. They over that period are at the lowest part of that range at the moment.
The main problem is the slow production of quality footballers. Eight of the thirteen that came in on permanent deals have not fully kicked on. Key is the best Tymon and Yates have played regularly Peterson and Ginnelly have been injured, Broome Kukharevic and Ntjoe have barely featured between them.
In my opinion these guys need to play. Azeem is ready, I have doubts about Congreve but Wilson has the speed Swansea need.
It will be a slow recovery. Even slower if Swansea do not stop developing other teams players and paying for the privilege. [Post edited 22 Dec 2023 22:58]
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| Time to act on 08:32 - Dec 23 with 1189 views | QJumpingJack |
| Time to act on 22:56 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The last time Swansea were relegated Mr Toshack was manager and Mr Struel was chairman, Both were Welsh. The club fell like a stone. Mr Sharpe did great service but the club was in a deep hole for over a decade.
Without US support the same thing would have happened under Morgan and Jenkins most probably. The the numbers were getting too big for Welsh owners and they correctly handed over the reigns. Billionaires are in short supply in Wales. No risks were taken with minor shareholders.
The next best thing is USA owners with Welsh heritage. I welcome it. Swansea over the last 15 years or so SCFC have been in the top 8-35 clubs in the English system. They over that period are at the lowest part of that range at the moment.
The main problem is the slow production of quality footballers. Eight of the thirteen that came in on permanent deals have not fully kicked on. Key is the best Tymon and Yates have played regularly Peterson and Ginnelly have been injured, Broome Kukharevic and Ntjoe have barely featured between them.
In my opinion these guys need to play. Azeem is ready, I have doubts about Congreve but Wilson has the speed Swansea need.
It will be a slow recovery. Even slower if Swansea do not stop developing other teams players and paying for the privilege. [Post edited 22 Dec 2023 22:58]
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The last time Swansea were relegated was in 2018.
And we have been relegated numerous times since 1981.
So your opening statement is inaccurate. Please check your facts/historical records concerning the club. | | | |
| Time to act on 08:49 - Dec 23 with 1165 views | Whiterockin |
| Time to act on 08:32 - Dec 23 by QJumpingJack |
The last time Swansea were relegated was in 2018.
And we have been relegated numerous times since 1981.
So your opening statement is inaccurate. Please check your facts/historical records concerning the club. |
Wasting your time mate, the neath valley is in a time vacuum where fact never prevails. | | | |
| Time to act on 14:21 - Dec 23 with 1036 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Time to act on 08:32 - Dec 23 by QJumpingJack |
The last time Swansea were relegated was in 2018.
And we have been relegated numerous times since 1981.
So your opening statement is inaccurate. Please check your facts/historical records concerning the club. |
The post was written in the context of the clubs current position (of relatively recently having been relegated from the Premier league). I clarified the time period by mentioning Toshack and Stuel. No reader would confuse my meaning.
Another chance for you guys to buddy up with the "exile" and pathetically call out good Welsh people. The greatest days of Swansea city were under Huw Jenkins himself t from the Neath Valley as I understand it. It still irritates obviously. | |
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| Time to act on 17:58 - Dec 23 with 949 views | QJumpingJack |
| Time to act on 14:21 - Dec 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The post was written in the context of the clubs current position (of relatively recently having been relegated from the Premier league). I clarified the time period by mentioning Toshack and Stuel. No reader would confuse my meaning.
Another chance for you guys to buddy up with the "exile" and pathetically call out good Welsh people. The greatest days of Swansea city were under Huw Jenkins himself t from the Neath Valley as I understand it. It still irritates obviously. |
Huw Jenkins did a great job. Thank goodness we had him at the club from 2016-2019 as the club would have been in a poorer position without him. The American owners should have done much more to keep him on the day of Bristol City away in 2019. And we are still paying now.
The club needs the likes of Huw Jenkins and Trevor Birch - experienced football executives. Sadly we do not have that now. | | | |
| Time to act on 18:30 - Dec 23 with 918 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Time to act on 17:58 - Dec 23 by QJumpingJack |
Huw Jenkins did a great job. Thank goodness we had him at the club from 2016-2019 as the club would have been in a poorer position without him. The American owners should have done much more to keep him on the day of Bristol City away in 2019. And we are still paying now.
The club needs the likes of Huw Jenkins and Trevor Birch - experienced football executives. Sadly we do not have that now. |
It is premature to rate Mr Coleman. His second big mistake would be appointing Mr Sheehan. (Mr Dudd being the first). This is often a reflex action is response to improved results.
Coleman has claimed he has funds and is not settling for whoever is doing an OK job in the building. | |
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| Time to act on 18:52 - Dec 23 with 897 views | QJumpingJack |
| Time to act on 18:30 - Dec 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is premature to rate Mr Coleman. His second big mistake would be appointing Mr Sheehan. (Mr Dudd being the first). This is often a reflex action is response to improved results.
Coleman has claimed he has funds and is not settling for whoever is doing an OK job in the building. |
he has no experience and from what was being said in the west stand last night - Watson is making the big calls at the moment [hearsay] | | | |
| Time to act (n/t) on 19:22 - Dec 23 with 862 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Time to act (n/t) on 17:58 - Dec 22 by Chippy69 |
Think of another football club that have a chairman, who knows absolutely F all about football and the way it should be run
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Peter Storey allegedly ran Portsmouth into the ground . He had bags of experience. Peter Risdale very experienced at Leeds Utd. Bolton, Derby, Blackpool all had Charmen very experienced at running football clubs . They all did very badly. Aston Villa almost went bankrupt . The level of debt in football is horrendous.
Having a non football chairman who owns shares is a good idea it seems to me. | |
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| Time to act (n/t) on 19:53 - Dec 23 with 833 views | Whiterockin |
| Time to act (n/t) on 19:22 - Dec 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Peter Storey allegedly ran Portsmouth into the ground . He had bags of experience. Peter Risdale very experienced at Leeds Utd. Bolton, Derby, Blackpool all had Charmen very experienced at running football clubs . They all did very badly. Aston Villa almost went bankrupt . The level of debt in football is horrendous.
Having a non football chairman who owns shares is a good idea it seems to me. |
The chairman has shares in an American fund (Swansea Football LLC) that has shares in Swansea City. So no direct shares in the club. He is not listed as a direct shareholder. If he was to withdraw totally all his investment from Swansea Football LLC, Companies House would not need to be informed because he is not a direct shareholder. | | | |
| Time to act on 20:14 - Dec 23 with 801 views | Dr_Winston |
The argument over whether or not Coleman has invested in the club is tiresome and largely irrelevant. It doesn't matter where his shares are in the ownership chain. Ultimately if he wants to profit from them the club needs to do well. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Time to act on 20:24 - Dec 23 with 777 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Time to act on 14:21 - Dec 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The post was written in the context of the clubs current position (of relatively recently having been relegated from the Premier league). I clarified the time period by mentioning Toshack and Stuel. No reader would confuse my meaning.
Another chance for you guys to buddy up with the "exile" and pathetically call out good Welsh people. The greatest days of Swansea city were under Huw Jenkins himself t from the Neath Valley as I understand it. It still irritates obviously. |
No, nobody confused your meaning we just saw it for what it was, either completely wrong or just a feeder line to try and draw a reaction. Either way it's sad. You either know absolutely nothing or you are simpy a WUm and a troll and there's nothing good in that.
Nobody is buddying up either, all it s is individuals seeing your posts and laughing at how wrong they are then, eventually replying..
I've gone with the WUM/troll line. I see you, see what you are. It's why you are on ignore, because your pathetic ramblings are not worth bothering with anymore.
Goodnight, have a good Christmas. | | | |
| Time to act on 21:01 - Dec 23 with 724 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Time to act on 20:24 - Dec 23 by SullutaCreturned |
No, nobody confused your meaning we just saw it for what it was, either completely wrong or just a feeder line to try and draw a reaction. Either way it's sad. You either know absolutely nothing or you are simpy a WUm and a troll and there's nothing good in that.
Nobody is buddying up either, all it s is individuals seeing your posts and laughing at how wrong they are then, eventually replying..
I've gone with the WUM/troll line. I see you, see what you are. It's why you are on ignore, because your pathetic ramblings are not worth bothering with anymore.
Goodnight, have a good Christmas. |
I do not do trolling and never criticise individuals. You are welcome to laugh at my posts. I try humour sometimes to mixed success it has to be said.
I have made my evaluation of you and keep it to myself. [Post edited 23 Dec 2023 21:20]
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