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Same Time Next Year 23:14 - Mar 11 with 3243 viewsdaveB

I get to this point every year, time to rant away at everything and 12 months time nothing will have changed. I try and be positive, I try so hard to look for the good as it's so easy to focus on the bad, I have done all I can to stay positive on Nourry and think maybe I'm wrong give it time but I always end up here, some years it's a 6-1 at Blackpool this years its a 1-0 at Birmingham, tired, angry and ranting away on a message board likely to feature some mad spelling mistakes.

It's a mess, I'm just sick of it.

10 years of the same bloody season again and again. Good for a few months with a load of crap in between, then needing a few nervy results to avoid going down. It happened under Holloway, McClaren, the first year under Warbs, the Beale/Ainsworth year, Marti last year and again. That's not a coincidence.

The manager will get the sack again either next week if we lose the next two, or in the summer, and it will be the same again.

Heads should be rolling. Hoos, Nourry, Williams, head of methodology, the performance therapist all absolute cobblers. Be gone with them.Get a proper CEO in who knows what he's doing. Get a proper Director of football in who knows what he's doing, get people with experience and ability into positions no more bullshitters. We need good smart people running this place with a bit of bloody ambition to see us win football matches rather than the sole aim being to sell someone.

Good luck with selling Varane by the way, he runs like he's filled his nappy up and seems allergic to a foward pass. Hopefully someone is mad enough to read the data and think he doesn't give the ball away, his stats are great.

Another injury tonight, We'll call it contact to pretend we have no issue with muscle injuries. We were so off the pace again today, looked so much slower than Birmingham.

All that said no excuses for the players either that first half was a disgrace. We got nowhere near the opposition; they just stood and said off you go, we were fur coat no knickers tonight. Who wants some? Boys, help yourself. When we ran around a bit in the second half, it turned out Birmingham were nervy and crap but again our final ball, our finishing, our set pieces all absolutley shit.

As bad as that 6-1 v Blackpool a few years ago, the scoreline does not reflect that first half performance.

We'll probably scrape a win somewhere and stay up but we've spent fortunes on this squad and look like we're going to finish lower with fewer points than not only last season but the one before. 

Nowhere near good enough since we beat Leicester in December.

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Same Time Next Year on 10:28 - Mar 12 with 1260 viewsted_hendrix

Same Time Next Year on 10:17 - Mar 12 by TheChef

League One relegation would be a disaster, imagine how many years it would take us to go up again!

As a bare minimum we have to stay in the Championship. It's not a difficult league to compete in but for the last ten years we've always made it far tougher than it is.


Please don't mention League One, our current Manager and players will still be In League One many years after I've dropped dead and took off flying around space In a silver machine.

League One Is an absolute grave yard for football clubs.

What Is needed right now a verbal sort out between the Manager and players behind locked doors.

Something Is plainly and badly wrong.
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My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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Same Time Next Year on 10:29 - Mar 12 with 1256 viewsthehat

I know where you are coming from Dave and yes the QPR annual shit show is rolling back into town. I have smelt this coming for a while and it has fully accelerated since the drubbing at Southampton.

The first half was a disgrace yes but why on earth are we playing a flat back four again in a 4,2,3,1 formation. It's like ringing the dinner bell for the opposition. As per the previous games there are gaps everywhere through our midfield. The players have no faith in it and it shows. Surely they have team meetings during the week and analyse previous performances and you need to change the system to the players that are available. Having JCS as an orthodox left back and Vale as a wide player with Saito in the ten was pure comedy. I noticed he switched Vale and Saito after about 25 minutes but the damage was already done.

No doubt he will do the same again Saturday (Leicester are 5/4 for the win by the way) and we will be circa 6 points of relegation come 5.00pm Saturday.

The Cook injury is another nail in the coffin that I can only see ending one way. All teams below and around us are picking up points and we are shot to bits.
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Same Time Next Year on 10:35 - Mar 12 with 1201 viewsJamesB1979

Same Time Next Year on 09:16 - Mar 12 by daveB

What exactly are we ripping up that should be kept?
That first half last night was a disgrace of a performance, with no effort at all which shows how the good eggs are only good when things are going well. A bit of adversity and we fall apart.

We've had it before under McClaren when we were around playoffs in January and almost relegated by April. Warbs' first season had us near the playoffs in March then after COVID, we lost almost every game and were thankful for a Wigan points deduction.
The Beale season playoffs at Christmas almost relegated. Last season around playoffs on Valentineas Day slipped away and needed a win at Oxford to avoid being dragged in.
Same again this year, you can blame the manager and I don't think he's doing a great job but it happens almost every season.

Yes we were 7th earlier in the season, so what, Preston and Stoke were 3rd for a while I doubt they are happy with how it ended up either.


Most people seemed to be generally positive on recruitment as of January 2026. 1 and a bit months later and it’s all rubbish? I still believe that Madsen, Burrell, Kone, Edwards, Mbengue, Poku are good players and good signings. I don’t know what on earth has happened to Varane, Morrison, Dembele and Saito. Not sure on Vale. I’m not going to change my mind on recruitment in 1 month.

The general fitness and injuries is an issue. That kills any chance of doing better than last season. But performances over last 2 months have been unacceptable from a tactical and intensity point of view. That rests with JS and his coaches.

Sam Field - Even when Hayden and Varane were out, JS still didn’t pick him in central midfield.
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Same Time Next Year on 10:49 - Mar 12 with 1141 viewswombat

Same Time Next Year on 10:35 - Mar 12 by JamesB1979

Most people seemed to be generally positive on recruitment as of January 2026. 1 and a bit months later and it’s all rubbish? I still believe that Madsen, Burrell, Kone, Edwards, Mbengue, Poku are good players and good signings. I don’t know what on earth has happened to Varane, Morrison, Dembele and Saito. Not sure on Vale. I’m not going to change my mind on recruitment in 1 month.

The general fitness and injuries is an issue. That kills any chance of doing better than last season. But performances over last 2 months have been unacceptable from a tactical and intensity point of view. That rests with JS and his coaches.

Sam Field - Even when Hayden and Varane were out, JS still didn’t pick him in central midfield.


whats the term shit rolls down hill , in recent months years how many established members of staff have left been sacked?
we have this season bombed out
Field
Cook
chair hasnt been seen in how long
all of these are leaders on and off the pitch there was an incident with mbengue at a corner dunne told him three or four times where to mark he irngired him dunne litterly pushed him and he still ignored him .

having cook back steadied the ship last night esp in the first half when it was the usual custers last stand and another likely hammering , hes now unlikley to be seen again with yet another impact injury.

when the same problem williams is allowed to feck off to dubai and work via zoom and themn come back and get promoted to allow him to have fingers in even more pies , well that says things aint gonna get any better. and whos letting him do that nourry .

Nourry is totally utterly out of his depth hes brought in fans favs to keep the punters happy for a few months with edwards and saito , yet hes trying to run the club and all its facets like a computer game , football isnt like that its about people behind the scenes , having good eggs around the club not binning people like furlong off because suddenly his face dosnt fit what was the statement we want to go in a new direction with the dev s isnt a dev sqaud about winning games and bringing players through to the first team ?

not sure who u can go in a diff direction when the remit is that open and shut.

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Same Time Next Year on 10:57 - Mar 12 with 1113 viewsMonkey_Roots

Same Time Next Year on 10:28 - Mar 12 by ted_hendrix

Please don't mention League One, our current Manager and players will still be In League One many years after I've dropped dead and took off flying around space In a silver machine.

League One Is an absolute grave yard for football clubs.

What Is needed right now a verbal sort out between the Manager and players behind locked doors.

Something Is plainly and badly wrong.
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Plainly and badly wrong is what I was thinking last night.

If I believed in hoo doo and witchcraft, I would honestly put this down to a curse...
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Same Time Next Year on 10:59 - Mar 12 with 1108 viewsMonkey_Roots

Same Time Next Year on 10:35 - Mar 12 by JamesB1979

Most people seemed to be generally positive on recruitment as of January 2026. 1 and a bit months later and it’s all rubbish? I still believe that Madsen, Burrell, Kone, Edwards, Mbengue, Poku are good players and good signings. I don’t know what on earth has happened to Varane, Morrison, Dembele and Saito. Not sure on Vale. I’m not going to change my mind on recruitment in 1 month.

The general fitness and injuries is an issue. That kills any chance of doing better than last season. But performances over last 2 months have been unacceptable from a tactical and intensity point of view. That rests with JS and his coaches.

Sam Field - Even when Hayden and Varane were out, JS still didn’t pick him in central midfield.


I too am still positive about the signings - i truly believe that the past 2 windows have been our most positive for a long long time. I know what is happening on the pitch doesn't bear this out, but I honestly don't know why.
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Same Time Next Year on 11:04 - Mar 12 with 1095 viewsBushRanger82

Same Time Next Year on 23:42 - Mar 11 by ted_hendrix

Whilst agreeing with the OP's post and FWIW I've given up On QPR too many times to remember but here we are again going over the same old situation.

Please dont say ''It's what we do we're QPR'' no It aint and nor should It be.

A few weeks ago there was talk of maybe, just maybe making the play off's

The sooner this season ends the better, having said that If I was the one bank rolling this club I'd be kicking somebody's arse down the road.

Talk Is easy I know.


I hate hearing people say things like that, it's like they wallow in mediocrity, and are content to be so forever.
Queen's Park Rangers should be aiming to be up there, competing with Chelsea for supremacy of West London.
Not forever being in the gutter, and being grateful for it.
Now, I know going to Wembley and winning cups, winning the Premier League, the Champions League, etc, etc, etc, is the pipe dream of all pipe dreams for a club like us, but so it was too, for Chelsea once.
I wish our club would dare to dream for once, and go hell for leather after them.
I hate this version of our club, and want it gone.
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Same Time Next Year on 12:14 - Mar 12 with 986 viewsdaveB

Same Time Next Year on 10:35 - Mar 12 by JamesB1979

Most people seemed to be generally positive on recruitment as of January 2026. 1 and a bit months later and it’s all rubbish? I still believe that Madsen, Burrell, Kone, Edwards, Mbengue, Poku are good players and good signings. I don’t know what on earth has happened to Varane, Morrison, Dembele and Saito. Not sure on Vale. I’m not going to change my mind on recruitment in 1 month.

The general fitness and injuries is an issue. That kills any chance of doing better than last season. But performances over last 2 months have been unacceptable from a tactical and intensity point of view. That rests with JS and his coaches.

Sam Field - Even when Hayden and Varane were out, JS still didn’t pick him in central midfield.


I think we made some good signings last summer, and I still do but whether those promising signings can turn into a good team is very different.

Our signings have always shown great potential over the years, but very few reach it. Kone started off great, but now looks similar to the likes of Dykes. Madsen has performed well. Mbengue, Burrell both very good.

I think Edwards will turn into a good signing and I have high hopes for Poku if he can stay fit.

A lot of money wasted on Dembele,Celar and Saito though, We seem to be spending a lot on these speculative punts, great if they pay off like Madsen less so if they don't.

However, individual performance isn't everything. Do we put them in the best environment to succeed? Number of injuries we get, how unfit they look in 3 game weeks. The number of staff we have are they helping get the best from these players.

The standards set seem to be average is enough so they can be good some weeks bad others and there is no real consequence.

I've a lot of doubts on the manager as well, he's not used a lot of the players well imo, very few have improved but again is that the manager, the performance staff or their own character. I liked the switch to 4-4-2 but less keen on how he plays his wingers, switches players positions so often and his use of subs is awful.

It all comes from the top for me. I could have posted those last 2 paragraphs a year ago even 3 years ago and it would have been valid. Until we get it right at the top nothing will change and it's been rare in the last 25 years that we've got that anywhere near right.

That doesn't mean the manager gets away with it or individual players but get it right at the top and the rest follows.

A culture of this is our cave, no one gets an easy game at Loftus Road. We of course would still lose home games but it would have an impact, this isn't right we must do better. That's how we were in league one and ended with an unbeaten home season because we took pride in that. Thats just one little thing as well.
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Same Time Next Year on 12:48 - Mar 12 with 924 viewsJamesB1979

Same Time Next Year on 12:14 - Mar 12 by daveB

I think we made some good signings last summer, and I still do but whether those promising signings can turn into a good team is very different.

Our signings have always shown great potential over the years, but very few reach it. Kone started off great, but now looks similar to the likes of Dykes. Madsen has performed well. Mbengue, Burrell both very good.

I think Edwards will turn into a good signing and I have high hopes for Poku if he can stay fit.

A lot of money wasted on Dembele,Celar and Saito though, We seem to be spending a lot on these speculative punts, great if they pay off like Madsen less so if they don't.

However, individual performance isn't everything. Do we put them in the best environment to succeed? Number of injuries we get, how unfit they look in 3 game weeks. The number of staff we have are they helping get the best from these players.

The standards set seem to be average is enough so they can be good some weeks bad others and there is no real consequence.

I've a lot of doubts on the manager as well, he's not used a lot of the players well imo, very few have improved but again is that the manager, the performance staff or their own character. I liked the switch to 4-4-2 but less keen on how he plays his wingers, switches players positions so often and his use of subs is awful.

It all comes from the top for me. I could have posted those last 2 paragraphs a year ago even 3 years ago and it would have been valid. Until we get it right at the top nothing will change and it's been rare in the last 25 years that we've got that anywhere near right.

That doesn't mean the manager gets away with it or individual players but get it right at the top and the rest follows.

A culture of this is our cave, no one gets an easy game at Loftus Road. We of course would still lose home games but it would have an impact, this isn't right we must do better. That's how we were in league one and ended with an unbeaten home season because we took pride in that. Thats just one little thing as well.
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Fitness and injuries - agree, 100%. If the club don’t realize they’ve got a huge issue here then I give up.

“Best environment to succeed..”….. The owners have invested in a training facility, isn’t that all that they need? Then it’s down to the coaching. Isn’t it down to JS and all the coaches to put them all together and form a side that works? And to develop them?

On another related note, what on earth does Betsy do? And Bould?

The depressing thing for me is not just the results but other than Madsen, none of the players have improved. And is Madsen just a good player who had some personal/confidence/manager issues last season? There is no point in pursing a “development” strategy if we’ve got useless people doing the developing.
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Same Time Next Year on 13:02 - Mar 12 with 878 viewsbaz_qpr

I dont believe player improvement and lack of fitness are unconnected. If you are out of breath, after 20 minutes (Saito) cramping up in March (Edwards) etc tiredness leads to poor decisions, poor decisions lead to falls in confidence.

Last night the commentator from the start , QPR are at least a yard of the pace.

Fitness of the body and fitness of the mind and speed of thought are connected.
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Same Time Next Year on 13:02 - Mar 12 with 878 viewsdaveB

Same Time Next Year on 12:48 - Mar 12 by JamesB1979

Fitness and injuries - agree, 100%. If the club don’t realize they’ve got a huge issue here then I give up.

“Best environment to succeed..”….. The owners have invested in a training facility, isn’t that all that they need? Then it’s down to the coaching. Isn’t it down to JS and all the coaches to put them all together and form a side that works? And to develop them?

On another related note, what on earth does Betsy do? And Bould?

The depressing thing for me is not just the results but other than Madsen, none of the players have improved. And is Madsen just a good player who had some personal/confidence/manager issues last season? There is no point in pursing a “development” strategy if we’ve got useless people doing the developing.


Training ground is just a building, you need the right people working with the players every day from the head coach to the multitude of performance staff at all age levels.

The club should be reviewing everyone's position at the moment although last time they did that the bloke doing the review gave himself the job
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Same Time Next Year on 13:23 - Mar 12 with 842 viewsSuperhoops2808

Same Time Next Year on 10:10 - Mar 12 by GaryBannister86

"I haven't read through other threads on this board because most of it is rant rant rant and its same old posters out of the woodwork when we are doing badly that we never hear from when we are playing well."

I don't understand the problem with this. Maybe when we win they are too busy being happy and celebrating, so there is less to post?

What is wrong with venting about the issues, even if you don't write "hurrah everything is great" when we win?

Just because someone doesn't post when we are doing well surely doesn't mean that they are not enjoying it and only want us to lose?


Point taken Gary, but I am referring to the usual suspects - You know who I mean - And the ones who have been 'planted here' - Sadly a reflection on all social media.

I don't want people saying 'Hurrah everything is great', but credit players/coach when things are in a positive situation

Anyway, that's just my personal view
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Same Time Next Year on 13:41 - Mar 12 with 783 viewsJamesB1979

Same Time Next Year on 13:23 - Mar 12 by Superhoops2808

Point taken Gary, but I am referring to the usual suspects - You know who I mean - And the ones who have been 'planted here' - Sadly a reflection on all social media.

I don't want people saying 'Hurrah everything is great', but credit players/coach when things are in a positive situation

Anyway, that's just my personal view


Who has been “planted here”? And for what purpose? Human nature to want to have a moan more on here I think.
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Same Time Next Year on 13:43 - Mar 12 with 780 viewsPadulas_Shampoo

Same Time Next Year on 13:02 - Mar 12 by baz_qpr

I dont believe player improvement and lack of fitness are unconnected. If you are out of breath, after 20 minutes (Saito) cramping up in March (Edwards) etc tiredness leads to poor decisions, poor decisions lead to falls in confidence.

Last night the commentator from the start , QPR are at least a yard of the pace.

Fitness of the body and fitness of the mind and speed of thought are connected.


Totally agree, well said.

This is the tightest division in world football. If you're even a tiny bit 'off' from a physical and mental standpoint you'll be found out. It's hardly a leap - given that half the squad seem to have had some sort of injury issue at some point all season - that those that ARE injury free perhaps don't feel like they're at peak physical fitness. Last night and Sunday it looked like every one single of them was running on fumes from kick off.
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Same Time Next Year on 13:50 - Mar 12 with 753 viewsJamesB1979

Same Time Next Year on 13:02 - Mar 12 by baz_qpr

I dont believe player improvement and lack of fitness are unconnected. If you are out of breath, after 20 minutes (Saito) cramping up in March (Edwards) etc tiredness leads to poor decisions, poor decisions lead to falls in confidence.

Last night the commentator from the start , QPR are at least a yard of the pace.

Fitness of the body and fitness of the mind and speed of thought are connected.


It’s a good point and one I hadn’t considered. It would actually explain a lot of the issues we had this and last season.
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Same Time Next Year on 13:58 - Mar 12 with 733 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Same Time Next Year on 13:02 - Mar 12 by baz_qpr

I dont believe player improvement and lack of fitness are unconnected. If you are out of breath, after 20 minutes (Saito) cramping up in March (Edwards) etc tiredness leads to poor decisions, poor decisions lead to falls in confidence.

Last night the commentator from the start , QPR are at least a yard of the pace.

Fitness of the body and fitness of the mind and speed of thought are connected.


Agreed, Baz, and part of the reason I find it hard to be too down on Stéphan.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Same Time Next Year on 14:29 - Mar 12 with 678 viewsNorthernr

G'wan Dave. Well fcking said.
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Same Time Next Year on 14:38 - Mar 12 with 637 viewsstevec

Think the real problem is a lack of senior players who know their way around the Championship.

Last night, 7 of the starting 11 had either had only this seasons experience or their second year of experience. You can get away with that when things are going well, but it doesn’t take much going wrong to ruffle these players. Think most of the other disasters since Xmas have involved 7 or 8 in the team.

Of those 7 I’d say 5 have gone backwards and the other 2 are around the same form as their inception.

We may point to injuries but to my mind, think the only experienced player we lacked last night was Chair, we simply don’t have enough of them.

I get the concept of a buy to sell club but it takes a bit of savvy to know when to rein it in, and Nourry probably doesn’t.
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Same Time Next Year on 14:53 - Mar 12 with 580 viewsNorthantsHoop

Same Time Next Year on 10:17 - Mar 12 by TheChef

League One relegation would be a disaster, imagine how many years it would take us to go up again!

As a bare minimum we have to stay in the Championship. It's not a difficult league to compete in but for the last ten years we've always made it far tougher than it is.


Exactly stay in the Championship and be competitive in the Championship must be the goal. Look at Millwall, similar club to QPR they have cemented themselves into being very competitive in this league since coming up from League 1 about 10 years or so ago. They have been improving year on year and have been knocking at the doors of the play off for last 3 or 4 years and are now in with a great chance of being automatically promoted. Going about their business in an organised and structured way, as far as I can remember only had 3 or 4 managers in last few years including Rowett and now Alex Neill both proven operators at this level. We have been toiling away with foreign coaching experiments and two ex players who could not cut it at this level.
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Same Time Next Year on 15:13 - Mar 12 with 522 viewsMick_S

Regarding the fitness: to me, this is the most obvious problem amongst all the others, because I can see it with my own eyes. We all can. Having players not working particularly hard for the club puffing and blowing on 25 minutes is beyond shit.

Having said that there is personal accountability; I’d suggest more so when you are on 10/20 whatever grand a week.

Take yourself away, as some have done, and get bloody fit. There is no substitution for hard work and minutes on the pitch, but for goodness sake have a bit of professional pride.

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Same Time Next Year on 15:16 - Mar 12 with 494 viewsTheChef

Same Time Next Year on 14:53 - Mar 12 by NorthantsHoop

Exactly stay in the Championship and be competitive in the Championship must be the goal. Look at Millwall, similar club to QPR they have cemented themselves into being very competitive in this league since coming up from League 1 about 10 years or so ago. They have been improving year on year and have been knocking at the doors of the play off for last 3 or 4 years and are now in with a great chance of being automatically promoted. Going about their business in an organised and structured way, as far as I can remember only had 3 or 4 managers in last few years including Rowett and now Alex Neill both proven operators at this level. We have been toiling away with foreign coaching experiments and two ex players who could not cut it at this level.


Run around at least as much or more than the opposition.

Put your foot in.

It's not very difficult.

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Same Time Next Year on 15:33 - Mar 12 with 446 viewsTK1

Same Time Next Year on 10:35 - Mar 12 by JamesB1979

Most people seemed to be generally positive on recruitment as of January 2026. 1 and a bit months later and it’s all rubbish? I still believe that Madsen, Burrell, Kone, Edwards, Mbengue, Poku are good players and good signings. I don’t know what on earth has happened to Varane, Morrison, Dembele and Saito. Not sure on Vale. I’m not going to change my mind on recruitment in 1 month.

The general fitness and injuries is an issue. That kills any chance of doing better than last season. But performances over last 2 months have been unacceptable from a tactical and intensity point of view. That rests with JS and his coaches.

Sam Field - Even when Hayden and Varane were out, JS still didn’t pick him in central midfield.


I've said this before, but Sam Field was being offered to other Championship clubs before Stephan joined. It's game model biz, which has nothing to do with the coach.

We have Stephan because he's a guy who can accept whichever player is given. Many coaches wouldn't. Who'd accept being told who his number 1 is, for example?

When Dave Mc asked Stephan if he was picking the team, there was outrage, particularly on X. Dave Mc was not trolling. That's not him. He was getting that on the record because he also knows the parameters that the QPR coach must operate within under the current administration.

"Ripping everything up" would be less apocalyptic than you imagine. It would be healing. And better than going again like this next season. Bu most of it, the uneven squad, the lovely training ground, the players we spent far more on than they're currently worth...that all stays. Hopefully everything is managed more sensibly, with less insane narcissism and we can resurface sooner.
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Same Time Next Year on 18:15 - Mar 12 with 328 viewsPaddyhoops

That Leicester side we beat was a poor side.
Not expecting them to be poor on Saturday.
We need someone to be as awful as we are at the moment to get a win
I suspect by the law of averages we’ll find somebody in the next six weeks.
We never really recovered from those last three minutes against Wrexham .
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Same Time Next Year on 18:48 - Mar 12 with 278 viewsjtuck

Competence is all we want and we never get it. Agree with posters that recruitment has been promising, though in retrospect a bit too reliant on getting players with no or little Championship experience. Best ability is availability and if you're not match fit, you're just wasting space on the pitch. I end up being admiring and jealous (god help me) not of teams like Millwall, Brentford or Fulham, but of teams with far less like Oxford and Charlton who fight and fight again and organize and battle and make the best of things and make sensible, smart decisions. We are soft and always seem to regress to this state whatever the manager.

Current Nourry set up needs to be blown up because it sinks 'performance' and leads to injuries. Fire him and all his underlings and make a fresh start with a promising (on paper) squad.

LAranger

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